President Trump is once again trying to brush off the Jeffrey Epstein crisis as "nothing." Wired Senior Writer Jake Lahut, Staff Writer at The Atlantic Charlie Warzel and former Communications Director for the Republican National Committee Doug Heye join Katy Tur to discuss why people on both sides of the aisle are pushing for the release of the files.

Trump knew Epstein socially in the 1990s and early 2000s. During the 2021 trial of Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell, the financier's longtime pilot, Lawrence Visoski, testified that Trump flew on Epstein's private plane multiple times. Trump has denied being on the plane.

In a significant move, President Trump has directed the Department of Justice to unveil the grand jury testimony from the Epstein files. This decision comes as public pressure mounts for transparency and details of the case.